Monitoring IAT, IAT2 Cadillac STS-V

This morning I did some data-logging with HPTuners up and down the highway.  I am still learning the software, so feel free to make suggestions.

I grabbed these screen shots of a couple of points: (click on the image for a zoom-in version, then hit back to come back):

HPTuners datalog screenshot 1

What the first screenshot shows is that at 69 mph and 6651 RPM the supercharger was making 10.7 psi.  During this portion of the run, ambient air temperature was 90F, IAT air coming into the MAF temperature sensor was 108F, and IAT2 air leaving the intercooler was at 151F.

Actually I would have expected the car to shift at 6500 rpm, but 6651 is close enough I suppose.

In the chart display at the bottom however, you can see that the IAT2 was already elevated before the higher-RPM event occurs.

The question for today though is how the IAT2 151F compares with ambient air 90F.  The Supercharger adds heat to the intake air in the process of compressing it.  At maximum RPM as here, the Supercharger is spinning at 2.1:1 and so 13,967 rpm.   This can add up to 200F to the air coming into the intercooler.   Today the air coming in to the supercharger was already 108F, so heating it by a couple hundred degrees puts some very hot air across the Laminova intercooler tubes. The goal for the Intercooler is to reduce the heated air back as close to ambient air as possible, pulling the air back from 200F+ down to 151F in this example.  The unachievable ideal is that the intercooler get the air down to the intercooler heat exchanger’s own cooling source, which is the ambient air coming into the front grill at 90F.

HP Tuners datalog screen shot 2

In the second screen shot, at 39 mph and 6502 rpm, ambient air was 88F, MAF intake air 108F, and IAT2 after the supercharger was 135F.

On a separate topic, long term fuel trims appear to be small, which I think is good.

Points to ponder:

How to reduce the IAT2 temperatures from 151F when accelerating at highway speeds

Why the max pressure seen was 10.7 psi instead of 12 psi?  Is this also temperature related?

How will these readings change in cool air?

 

Intercoolant Overflow in, Happy Friday

During my intercooler research I discovered that although the 2006/2007 Cadillac STS-V had a intercooler coolant expansion/overflow reservoir, the 2008/2009 STS-V just has a tube that drains to in front of the battery.    Looking at the system, I suspect that this is because the expansion/overflow is not really needed.  I wanted one though, so I reached out to ebay and picked one up.

Cadillac STS-V Intercooler Coolant expansion/overflow reservoir

This is a photo of the new overflow installed; it is the white tank to the left.  The reservoir bolted right in of course, as it is shaped to fit in that spot.  The tube was tied off to a support, so I disconnected it, plugged it into the reservoir, and it seems set.

Cadillac STS-V Intercoler Coolant Reservoir Vent Hole

The reservoir is vented to atmosphere, so it is not pressurized.

Started my Friday morning by washing the STS-V with the 2-bucket method, car shampoo, and a microfiber towel for scrub, then microfiber towels for drying.  In the 2-bucket method one bucket is used for clean water/soap, the other bucket is used for dirty water and wringing.  So dip the scrub sponge or towel in the clean soap/water, scrub the car, then wash it off and wring it out over the dirty water bucket, repeat.

If I get out by 7 am the sun is not over the house yet and there is time to wash and dry.

I love Cadillac hats anyway, but I don’t have one that I keep in the V.  Clearly I need to change that.

With the nicely clean STS-V I needed to drop by Lowe’s to pickup a fan my Wife had ordered, then grab breakfast, and head to my day. Nice summer morning for Texas at 82F, so  I put the sunroof open, the windows down, and enjoyed the morning.  By the time I arrived at destination my hair was uniformly disheveled in a fairly comical way, straight up on one side and randomly placed everywhere else.

No, I didn’t grab a photo.  Yes, I’ll be adding a car hat.

Gonna pump YOU up – Intercooler Pumps in Series to Maximize Cooling #Motorama

Update:

Although the info shown is relevant for 4 Laminova cores in series, the Cadillac design does not have 4 in series but rather has A-B in parallel and C-D in parallel flow.  I caused some confusion in the way I asked my question of Laminova as it turns out.  I am leaving this for consideration, but the pressure head through 2 Laminova cores instead of through 4 cores would be different.

In my analysis of pump flow rates versus the intercooler pressure head it became clear that at higher flow rates the stock pump has restricted flow.  In fact, instead of flowing 8 gallons per minute (gpm) it is probably flowing under 4 gpm.  We could find a new source for a intercooler coolant pump that can flow 9 gpm against a 1.4 bar resistance; that would be ideal.  However, there is a way to work with the parts we have to overcome this hurdle.

Note that I don’t have a sophisticated model of the overall flow resistance, but that my conjecture is that the flow across the heat exchanger is around a 1 psi resistance, and that system resistance for the hoses etc is 0.4 psi.  In my modeling a second front mounted heat exchanger is shown as another 1 psi of resistance.

The stock intercooler coolant pump is a centrifugal pump.  When two or more centrifugal pumps are placed in series, the resulting pump performance is obtained by adding their heads at a constant flow rate.  [Ref: Engineering Toolbox]

For our previous graphing this basically means if you put two pumps in series you ‘stack’ the two pumps’ flow versus pressure diagram on top of each other.

Using this insight, one way to overcome the pressure head presented by our intercooler system with the parts we know is to put 2 of the stock Bosch pumps in series in the flow.  If that works well, how would 2 of the Jabsco Cyclone 50840-12 pumps work?  Hmm, what if we put THREE Bosch pumps in series?  What about the Cyclones?

Good questions.  I wondered this also, so I continued with our previous graphs & calcs to do the analysis:

Multiple Intercooler Pumps in Series vs Intercooler Flow

Lots of complication, but let’s look at it.  First, the light green line bottom left is the stock intercooler pump flow.  Bottom left orange line is one cyclone pump.

See the light blue line that flows down from 1 bar and matches and doubles the green line flow line from one pump?  That is the line for 2 stock intercooler pumps in series.  The darker green line that runs down from 1.2 bar is for two Cyclone pumps in series.

What about 3 pumps?  The purple line running down from 1.5 bar is 3 stock pumps in series.  The yellow-green line running down from 1.8 bar is for 3 cyclone pumps in series.

What does all this mean?  Here’s some tabular data:

Liters/Min Gallons/Min Heat Xfer
Pump Core Only System Core only System KW Delta
Bosch 16 13 4.2 3.4 16.5
Cyclone 20 18 5.2 4.7 18.0 9.1%
Bosch x2S 21 20 5.5 5.2 19.0 15.2%
Cyclone x2S 29 27 7.6 7.1 20.5 24.2%
Bosch x3S 24.5 23 6.4 6.0 20.0 21.2%
Cyclone x3S 35 34 9.2 8.9 21.5 30.3%

This tells us that the flow rate through the system with 1 stock pump of 3.4 gpm goes up to 5.2 gpm if you add another pump, or 6.0 gpm with 3.

The system flow rate of a Cyclone goes from 4.7 gpm alone to 7.1 gpm with 2 or 8.9 gpm with 3.

Is more flow always better?  Well, yes, up to a point.  On the flow diagram I have summarized the heat transfer for each combination with the circles with letters in them.  1B= one Bosch, 1C= one Cyclone, 2B= two Bosch, 2C=two Cyclone, 3B=3 Bosch, 3C= 3 Cyclone pumps in series on the line at the top of the flow diagram.  That line they are all on is the heat transfer graph for the Laminova cores; it uses the right axis for its values, which are in kilowatts of heat transfer.  In the table I have read off the approximate values from the graph.

What we see is that 2 Bosch (2B) pumps give us a 15% improvement in heat transfer, and 2 Cyclone pumps (2C) give a 24% improvement.  Going to 3 pumps does improve it further but to a reduced degree.  Adding 1 Bosch pump to the stock pump adds 15%; adding a 3rd only adds 6% more.  Replacing the stock pump with 2 Cyclone pumps adds 24%; adding a 3rd Cyclone pump only adds 6% more.

Conclusion

My conclusion is that an optimal mix of expense versus reliability and complexity is to add a 2nd Bosch or replace the stock pump with 2 Cyclone pumps in series.  That should give us the best bang for the buck improvement in flow and heat transfer relative to expense.

Issue

What is the safe pressure for the intercooler cooling system on the STS-V?   What PSI is the relief/overflow cap set for?  If it is set  for 5 psi (0.3 bar) can the system function above that?  Response:  Because of the pressure drop across the Laminova cores at high flow rates there is a high pressure side of the system from the pump to the cores, and a low pressure side from the Laminova cores through the heat exchanger and the refill/pressure relief back to the pump.  The 5 psi relief won’t trigger unless the pressure in the system at THAT point is above 5 psi.

Plans

I like the additional front mounted intercooler idea. It seems a good way to add system coolant capacity and some additional cooling.  Additional coolant capacity acts as a delaying function for changes in coolant temperature.  Each of the Jabsco Cyclone pumps runs around $210; so 2 for $420.  The front-mounted heat exchanger (FMHE) for under the bumper I have in mind  is $179. It would take 5 hours of labor or so to remove and replace the front clip to install ($400).  So for a total budget of $1,200 or so the overall intercooler cooling system could be 24% more effective.  If you do the work yourself parts alone would be $600.