I’m sure we’ll MAF about it later…

On my quest for tuning my 2008 Cadillac STS-V as I have noted the Camaro5 community discovered that not all examples of the same Hitachi MAF have the same response characteristics.  MAFs with a single letter are less responsive than MAFs with a letter-number combo.    I believe that this indicator is a ‘lot’ indicator and perhaps relates to the individual components used in the sensor.  The STS-V uses the same card-type MAF sensor.

After MAF run snapshot near redline 2nd gear

Regardless, I got a ‘better’ MAF in the mail today from Apex Motorsports, and installed it in the STS-V.  Unfortunately, the V was heavily heat soaked so it is hard to do much useful testing at the moment.  Hopefully I will be able to run some new tests soon.

I did take the V out for a test drive and was able to confirm that the MAF is working properly and no codes shown, etc. with the new MAF in place.  I disconnected the battery for the new MAF install, so it has been ‘reset’ again.  Ambient temperature will read 32F until it slowly catches up again.  The IAT2 temps of 158F show the heavy heat soak, and the IAT1 would rapidly go up when stopped.  Local baro from weather underground today was 29.09 in (14.3 psi).

I was able to verify that although the physical throttle angle is 87% the Electronic throttle control system is treating this angle as 100%.

I have been playing with the delivered torque and calculated horsepower on my HP Tuners dashboard.  Because these both depend on delivered torque they are not considered useful for absolute value but are debatable to be useful for relative testing.  I would say treat them as info the ECM is using for load indication & for fun.

 

Cadillac STS-V: MAT vs IAT2 vs IAT Advance

I am continuing to study the effects and behavior trends for intake air temperatures (IAT) versus after the intercooler air temps (IAT2), versus Manifold Air Temps (MAT).

This graph is a tuner discussion taken from an .hpl download in this thread.  It is not my STS-V, just interesting to see the data from this run.  In the run the author was studying the relationship between MAT, IAT2, and the effect of IAT on timing advance (IAT Advance).

HPTuner Dashboard from a web example

What this dash shows is a moment in time as the STS-V is about to shift from 2nd to 3rd gear at 6188 RPM and 64 mph.  The IAT incoming air temperature is 79F, so a mild day.

The IAT2 is 117F, taken off the sensor.  The MAT is a predicted value for the actual manifold temperature as follows:

ok there is some hidden logic here you cannot see, the IAT2 PID displays the raw IAT2 sensor reading. The IAT Spark table uses a prediction from the IAT2 reading that is meant to compensate for the slow moving IAT2 sensor. To predict IAT2 temperatures faster than the IAT2 sensor can actually measure them. Now for the happy coincidence: The MAT value is calculated from this predicted IAT2 value (using the usual Bias and Filter tables) and for your application the bias tables are all 0. Meaning MAT = Predicted IAT2.

So in other words, the IAT2 is useful, but the MAT perhaps reflects the value that the IAT Advance will use.  What we see here is that the MAT temp of 109F the IAT Advance is 0 degrees.

Later in the run as the MAT goes up to 212F the IAT Advance falls as low as -3.2 degrees.

Hp Tuners test drive snapshot example2

Summary:

MAT is perhaps as important as IAT2 in understanding the LC3 Supercharged V8’s responses to temperature over time.  After adding MAT to the Table display in HP Tuners one can select F instead of the default of K degrees, and same for the gauges so that MAT shows apples to apples with the IATs.

Generally the MAT changes much more rapidly than the IAT2 value, which as described is the purpose of its use.  It swings higher than the IAT2 max, but also recovers faster to lower temps.

 

 

Spectre Intake: boxes on the doorstep

Boxes arrived with the Spectre Performance intake system for the Cadillac STS-V LC3 4.4L Supercharged V8 today (Monday).   Sorry for the camera phone pics, but grabbed the snap while bringing my Wife home and running back to my next appointment.

Spectre Performance Intake

Spectre Performance Intake

The system is offered in two parts, the ‘bottom’ end from MAF to filter (?) and the ‘top’ end from throttle body to MAF.  I ordered both parts, so two boxes from StreetSideAuto.

Friday is the dyno/install/dyno test day at True Street Motorsports in McKinney.