PIDs, FMHEs, Fans, and Intercooler Pump Flow Rates

I have a variety of topics today, but maybe they will all come together in the end.  If not, at least they will help me progress my thinking.

PIDS

The Society of Automotive Engineers (SAE) established a number of standard parameter identifiers (PIDs) so that as on-board diagnostics matured (OBDII) there would be  standard way to interface with an automobile and determine current status, parameters, etc.  Unfortunately, today the majority of PIDs in use by manufacturers are non-standard PIDs.  Further, instead of publishing the list of non-standard PIDs in use, the manufacturers sell their list to diagnostic equipment manufacturers.  That leaves small businesses out of the picture since they can’t afford to purchase the rights to the annual PID lists from multiple manufacturers.

I have been using the Harrison R&D CanScan interface and software to datalog the STS-V.  I need to monitor the intake air temperature sensor after the intercooler, IAT2, which unfortunately is a non-standard PID, and the software doesn’t have the hexidecimal code for that one.  HPTuners has done a lot of GM work with their scanning and tuning solutions.  I ordered a HPTuners VCM Scanner setup to use for datalogging.  It can be upgraded later to the full tuning suite if needed.

Once I can monitor the IAT2 temps then I can get more detailed logs of how my stock intercooler cooling system performs before considering any changes.

FMHE

Front mounted heat exchangers:  the popular under-bumper heat exchanger is a 26″ wide x 7″ tall x 3.5″ deep water to air heat exchanger that fits under the nose of the STS-V.  Scanning google it is also a popular add to other supercharged cars.  First, it retails for $179 which makes it affordable.  Second, it fits in a variety of applications.  Here is a link to the one at frozonboost.com:

FrozenBoost.com FMHE

Very little data on how efficient it is, but I have read a number of happy reports with good results.  Also, this one has been used in some current STS-V installations with good results.

Fans

One of my favorite FMHE solutions is the one at revanracing.com, which has dual puller fans behind a heat exchanger.  It is 26x12x4.5 (29″ wide with side mounts). Unfortunately although the width looks good the height is a bit tall for the STS-V nose where only 8″ is available.  I would like to add 2 puller fans to the 7″ tall FMHE but I am not sure there is room yet.  More study needed.

Pump Flow Rates

Another topic for discussion in intercooler cooling modifications is the flow rate for the intercooler pump.  The stock bosch-sourced intercooler pump on the STS-V is a centrifugal unit and flows 8 gallons per minute (gpm) or similar.  Some replacements claim flow rates of up to 30 gpm, which apparently can move the fluid through the core too fast to effectively remove heat.   This is something that would need more inputs for study — like temperature sensors at the in/out of the laminova intercooler system, and in/out of the heat exchanger and tests with datalogs in a variety of conditions.  I think for now I will leave this topic for later, and let others experiment in this area.  One of the features however of the 7″ FMHE is it has an easy place to put a temperature sensor.

On a separate note, at steady state driving the temperature change across a radiator is often only 10F.   The issue is how well the FMHE handles temperature transits such as wide open throttle induced sudden supercharger heat.

Summary

I am having a great time analyzing / studying the various engineering issues around intercooler cooling, and the body of work that people have done to test and install improved cooling solutions on their vehicles.  I think the important thing is to review it all, then setup an appropriate experiment and test, test, test.  That way we will have persuasive data on what works and what just costs money.  It is not lost on me that all of the changes people are making may make very little difference in the real world.  So my plan in general is consider, research, design an experiment, test the stock setup, select a mod, mod, test the mod.  Hopefully that will yield persuasive data, and along the way make for interesting articles here on the blog.

 

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