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Cadillac ATS-V Tune D2 Notes

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Areas addressed: (1) Set AFR to 12.25 (2) spark advanced reduced 1-2 pts at WOT range of 1.16..1.32 4500-6500 to address KR (3) Boost max limit up 0.4 to allow more boost; (4) Pressure delta up 0.05 to build boost faster (5) boost knock airmass max 1.34 to allow more desired boost (6) TUTD set to autoshift 1/2/3/4 (speed) (7) airflow turbo base DC added 5 to 1.6/2500->3/6750 to allow a higher waste gate duty cycle (WGDC).

Current Conditions Settings Mostly Cloudy 86°F Feels Like: 89°F Humidity: 63% Wind: SSE 17 mph Barometer: 29.88 in Dew Point: 71°F. SAE  Air Correction Factor =   1.0176355313799041 J1349 AUG2004. Max 451.8 hp equates to 459.8 SAE J1349 hp. I remembered to test with a/c off, and in track mode. Hotter day than prior, at 87F vs 60F, hot car.

Thoughts: We are making more boost, but throttle is closing again. Absolute Boost 33 exceeded desired 32.7 as RPM climbed through 5157 RPM at 63 mph causing throttle to close even though pedal at 100%. Boost math exceeded 17.8 psi at that point; boost/vacuum 18.7 psi. Cylinder airmass 1.27 g, KR 1.1 degrees.

Boost math to 17 psi max in 1st gear, 18.1 psi in 2nd gear, 17.8 psi but then throttle closed in third gear. So good news we are seeing higher boost in lower gears. But more headroom needed in desired boost. Planning to add headroom in knock airmass table, or in max boost table; the manifold air temp broke over 160F on that run, which is where max boost is limited to 33.2 psi. Overall another run with the same tune but cooler air would be interesting.

Still some KR in the 1.16 to 1.32 pressure ratio, 4000 to 6000 rpm, even after I removed 2 degrees of spark here; although it responded to initial removal of 1/2 of the spark it didn’t respond to removal of the other 1/2. I changed the AFR at the same time, however. It may prefer less lean?

The transmission adjustment I made to add automatic shift to tap up / tap down (TUTD) mode was not successful. I changed TUTD vs speed but not vs RPM, which is set to 7K. I will add RPM limits to match pattern A or B for tune E.

Boost solenoid DC: I added 5% duty cycle from 1.16 to 1.32 pressure ratio, 2500 to 6750 in an attempt to get more boost earlier. The duty cycle hits 60% in 1st and 2nd and close in 3rd before the throttle opens. Appears to be working as intended but helped exacerbate the throttle closing.

Scanner note — switched to latest beta 4.11.1374. Several channels previously scanned successfully disappeared for some reason; not clear why.

Next steps: Raise PE to 12.7. Address TUTD shift RPM. Adjust Turbo Knock Mass to raise desired boost. No change to spark map. Re-initialize scanner with car to understand missing channels. Modify TCC pressure apply ramp to reduce TCC slip. Rescan.

Cadillac ATS-V engine run time delays

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Did you know there are limits in your Cadillac ATS-V that are programmed based on engine run time (ERT)? ERT as in the amount of time the engine has been running that session.

The intercooler pump won’t start running for the first 10 seconds. Hard to make a lot of boost with no intercooler flow, but 10 seconds is a pretty short delay.

The intake cam and exhaust cam won’t vary their positions for the first 2 seconds (not much of a restriction there!) but again, don’t start the ATS-V then gun it and expect full performance.

If the engine coolant is VERY cold, under -4F, there is a fuel cut out after 5,200 RPM.

Cadillac STS-V LC3 Boost vs Engine RPM, Gear

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Taking an export from my HP Tuners datalog, I have been doing a bit more data analysis of various parameters.

Perhaps I am doing something wrong, but there appears to be a ‘hiccup’ in the csv export of the HP Tuners, in that the RPM is exported to the comma delimited file with a comma-formatted value.  For example, 2450 rpm is exported as 2,450 rpm so when imported as a comma delimited value it gets split into 2 and 450.  So, once I manually fixed that in my target file then I could import the data and begin to make some charts.

These charts show RPM across speed 0-60 mph, along with Boost at the same speeds.

RPM vs Speed vs Boost PSI

RPM is shown on the left Y axis, and Boost PSI on the right Y axis.  Speed in MPH is along the X axis.

Boost is certainly spikey measured this way.  There may also be other factors involved.

The Boost PSI is calculated by comparing the Manifold Absolute Pressure (MAP) with the V’s Barometric calculation (Baro).  One can see that the V does not shift at exactly the same RPM at 1-2 and at 2-3 although I believe they are both specified to shift at 6500 RPM.

This is the same graph with some smoothing done by averaging of values, 2 prior to and 2 after each point.

RPM vs Speed vs Boost PSI Smoothed

Finally, here is a graph showing boost in the target range of 4500 RPM to 6500 RPM with boost in 1st gear shown in blue and boost in 2nd gear shown in red:

Boost by RPM by Gear

Summary

My conclusion is that boost is in fact higher in 2nd gear than 1st gear.  This is perhaps due to more air flow into the intake at speed?  I am not certain.

On the graph Boost appears to settle around 9 PSI at high RPMs.  Boost in this dataset peaks at 9.86 PSI which in the smoothed set is 9.43 PSI.  The STS-V was designed for 12 PSI of boost.  If we assume the supercharger makes 12 PSI of boost then this reading after the Laminova tube intercooler suggests that the pressure drop of air across the intercooler is 2.57-2.14 PSI.