Power target for next Cadillac CTS?

The current Cadillac CTS sedan has all the right ingredients to be a very hot dish.  The Performance variant of the CTS Sedan makes a handy 304 hp at 6,400 rpm and 273 lb-ft at 5,200 rpm.  It has a direct injection 3.6L V6, FE3 tuned sport suspension, and performance brakes.  So is it as quick as it should be?

I know, if you want really quick, buy a CTS-V.  Got it.  But is the CTS Sedan putting up the numbers that it should?

Cadillac claims a 0-60 time for the current CTS of under 6.5 seconds.  Magazine tests of the FE3 Performance model have confirmed a 0-60 time of 6.3 seconds.

Let’s compare the CTS Sedan performance to the BMW 335i Sedan.  Yes, I recognize that the CTS is larger than the 335i, more the size of the BMW 5-series.  But I think that BMW 335i performance is really what Cadillac needs to be achieving with the CTS Sedan.  BMW are also masters at magazine numbers / comparison tests, so they are a good benchmark for benchmark racing.

Cadillac CTS BMW 335i
HP: 304 hp at 6400 rpm 300 hp at 5800 rpm*
Torque: 273 lb-ft at 5200 rpm 300 lb-ft at 1500 rpm
Car weight: 4,063 lbs 3,620 lbs
0-60 mph 6.3 sec 5.1 sec
0-100 mph 16.1 sec 12.7 sec
Skidpad 0.87 g 0.89 g
Power/Weight: 13.37 12.07

*Dyno Tests: Automobile Magazine dyno tested a 2007 BMW 335i and found that it was making 340-350 hp and 360 lb-ft of torque, much better results than BMW specs this engine for.  The Cadillac CTS’ LLT engine is SAE certified at 304 hp, so we know that is the true and accurate result.

Weight: weight is a side-effect of larger size. The CTS carries an extra 400 lbs compared to the BMW. Generally 0-60 mph times in this size car are effected at 0.1 sec per 100 lbs, so that is 0.4 seconds of disadvantage.  Given that the CTS Buyers want the CTS to be a fullsize sedan, and want all the luxury and safety features, Cadillac needs to add some power to the 3.6L.

Power: At the current weight, to achieve the same (Mfr claimed) power to weight ratio of the 335i, the LLT 3.6L engine needs to produce around 337 hp.  How can Cadillac achieve this?  The new 3L V6 makes 270 hp; if the 3.6L were tuned to achieve the same hp/liter as the 3L is doing now, or 90 hp/liter, the 3.6L would produce 324 hp instead of 304 hp.  Then for the Sport model of CTS I would specify a performance-tuned exhaust, and a performance-tuned intake.  Together those should put the Performance model above 345 hp normally aspirated.

However, if the BMW is actually making 345 hp, then to overcome the weight difference Cadillac needs a 380 hp powerplant.  Given choices, I would release a Turbo 3.6L as a mid-CTS model.  Such an engine might make 400 hp in production based on GM’s showcars claiming 425hp from that configuration.  That would solve the power/weight issue nicely for the CTS sedan or the upcoming CTS coupe.

Gearing:  I am interested to see how the upcoming CTS Coupe does with a more aggressive final drive ratio

Summary: Is the current Cadillac putting up the proper numbers? With equal power to the BMW claimed HP but at the current weight disadvantage, the CTS should do 0-60 mph in around 5.5 sec.  However, the BMW 3L Twin-turbo, at least the ones presented for comparison testing, is producing around 40 hp more than the Cadillac.  Again, by thumb rule 10 hp makes about 0.2 sec difference in 0-60 times.  So a 40 hp difference can change the 0-60 time by 0.8 sec if all goes well.  Therefore the current CTS if it were as efficient as the BMW at 0-60 mph, but at the current CTS weight, and down 40 hp compared to the BMW test models, should be able to do 0-60 mph in around 6.3 sec.  And it turns out, that is approximately what it does do.

Conclusion — Targets: I suggest that the target for the CTS however should be 0-60 mph in 5.5 sec.  That would put it squarely in the mid-range of what is considered sport sedan territory these days.  That probably means a tune-up to the LLT V6, send in the Supercharged Version, or release a V8 option below the CTS-V that gives the base sedan close to 400 hp.

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Re: How Carmakers Play The Name Game

Regarding this article on Autopia via Wired.com: How Carmakers Play The Name Game | Autopia | Wired.com
Go read the article, I’ll wait, or here is the key part we’ll be talking about:

Automakers such as Acura and Cadillac have followed the lead of Mercedes and Lexus, abandoning “Coupe d’Elegance” and “Integra” for CTS and TL. Sutton says such tactics convey an “insider” status for owners and help promote a brand over a particular model. Abbreviations and numbers are “like a secret language that you learn as an enthusiast and owner of the luxury car,” but “it also requires that the parent brand carries all the weight and communicates all of the brand message.”

The first Cadillacs were made in 1902, and simply referred to as Cadillacs.  Beginning in 1903 all one cylinder cars were referred to as Cadillac Model A, which was the way that many early car manufacturers designated their first model in the early 1900’s.  Later Cadillac used letter, then number designations, then names for their models.  Now they have turned to letter sequences; I think it is incorrect to say that this is something ‘new’ for Cadillac.

1941 Cadillac Sixty Special copyright GM

1941 Cadillac Sixty Special copyright GM

Here is a (I am sure partial) index of names Cadillac has used over time; I have omitted re-used names.  Please feel free to comment and correct any omissions and I will edit / update:

1902 Cadillac
1903 Model A
1904 Model B
1905 Model C, Model D, Model E, Model F
1906 Model K, Model L, Model M
1907 Model G
1908 Model S, Model T
1909 Model 301917 Model 55 (V-8)
1920 Type 59
1926 Series 314 (now named after the cubic inches in the engine), Custom Line
1930 Series 353, Fleetwood Line, “Flat Windshield” models, Madame X Models
1936 Series 60, Series 70, Series 75, Series 80, Series 85, Series 90
1937 Series 61, Series 65, Series 60 Special
1941 Series 63, Series 67
1946 Series 60 Special Fleetwood
1953 Series 60S, Series 62 Eldorado Special
1959 Fleetwood 60 Special, Series 63 DeVille, Series 6200 (or Series 62)
1967 Calais, DeVille, Fleetwood Eldorado, Sixty-Special, Fleetwood Brougham
1974 Fleetwood 75, Talisman Brougham
1984 Seville
1987 Brougham, Allante, Cimarron
1997 Catera
1990 STS (Seville Touring Sedan)
1993 ETC (Eldorado Touring Coupe), ESC (Eldorado Sport Coupe), SLS (Seville Luxury Sedan)
1999 Escalade
2001 DHS (Deville High Luxury Sedan), DTS (Deville Touring Sedan)
2003 CTS (C-class Touring Sedan)  [also at this point STS was re-purposed in some media as S-class Touring Sedan]
2004 XLR  (Experimental Luxury Roadster), SRX (S-class Recreation X-over (Crossover)), V-Series (Velocity)

I have omitted some combinations, like the Eldorado Seville, or Eldorado Biarritz.  Where I have shown names to explain the letters, those were historical.  In some cases Cadillac now says that names such as CTS or STS are simply the name and not acronyms.

So, letter and numbers are nothing new for Cadillac, but are actually ‘old school’.  I would like to see Cadillac re-use some of the historical numbers, such as 60S again, or Series 75 for the planned replacement for the DTS/STS, but I think it will be named XTS (Experimental Touring Sedan).  Also the ‘smaller than a CTS’ model that is on the way will likely be named ATS, which would be A-Class Touring Sedan if it were an acronym.

Article Reference: Autopia via Wired.com: How Carmakers Play The Name Game | Autopia | Wired.com.