Re: CanadianDriver » Cadillac » Test Drive: 2010 Cadillac SRX 3.0 AWD

Canadian Driver has a thoughtful test drive article about the 2010 Cadillac SRX here:

CanadianDriver » Cadillac » Test Drive: 2010 Cadillac SRX 3.0 AWD.

The SRX is a well-sorted luxury crossover. As with most Cadillacs, the look is polarizing; an Audi Q5 will find more fans in the middle-of-the-road looks camp, but this Caddy is definitely one of the most distinctive-looking vehicles in this class.

Such subjectivities aside, this second-generation SRX is, overall, a far better fit in the entry-luxury crossover segment than its odd-duck precedessor. Some of its competitors are prettier, and others sportier, but what’s most impressive is that Cadillac has created a very good crossover that manages to feel just a little bit different than anything else in the class, and it deserves a look for that reason alone.

The new Cadillac SRX is a great design for many in its target audience.  The interior and exterior look luxurious.  It has good power, and good fuel economy.  The things it needs to be and to do for the people who need this type of vehicle it appears to be and do very well.

One of the features that some are missing is that this capable SRX corners as well as a sedan.

Bob Lutz Says Cadillac CTS-V Sport Wagon is Definitely Coming – Car and Driver Blog

Bob Lutz Says Cadillac CTS-V Sport Wagon is Definitely Coming – Car and Driver Blog.

GM’s vice chairman Bob Lutz has confirmed that the 556-hp Cadillac CTS-V wagon will indeed become a production reality. Lutz dropped the W-bomb during a recent one-on-one interview while discussing how to prime the market for cool cargo haulers—like a possible Buick Regal wagon—especially among the over-35 set that grew up traumatized by wood-paneled Grand Marquis and Chrysler K-car wagon-trocities. Then Lutz said, “You know what’s really going to get you guys [on board with wagons] is the CTS-V wagon.”

This is terrific news, and something I think a lot of people see as a “no brainer”!  The Sport Wagon is around 200 lbs heavier than a CTS Sedan, but the Supercharged LSA engine has plenty of horses to handle that.  This is  great way to extend Cadillac sales — put together products that performance luxury enthusiasts are excited about.

Good decision.

Comparison: Cadillac CTS-V and Porsche Panamera S

Porsche has recently fielded their first 4-door sedan, the Panamera.  The new Porsche Panamera is sort of a low-flying variant of the Porsche SUV, the Cayenne.  It uses similar nomenclature, and powertrains as the SUV.  The Panamera has widely been panned for its visual appeal (or lack thereof), but I am a function over form person.  I am also a Porsche fan from way back, so let’s see how the new German compares with Cadillac’s CTS-V Supercar Sedan.

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Cadillac CTS-V's at Montecello Motor Club

The Porsche Panamera comes in S, 4S, and Turbo Variants.  The Panamera S, which starts at $90.7K, is the Panamera model that is likely to be cross-shopped with the $60.7K Cadillac CTS-V.

Porsche Panamera S

Porsche Panamera S

Here are the stats according to Motor Trend for the Porsche Panamera S:

2010 Porsche Panamera S
Base price range $90,775
Price as tested $104,805
Vehicle layout Front-engine, RWD, 4-pass, 4-door hatchback
Engine 4.8L/400-hp/369-lb-ft DOHC 32-valve V-8
Transmission 7-speed twin-clutch auto
Curb weight (dist f/r) 4108 lb (53/49)
Wheelbase 115.0 in
Length x width x height 195.6 x 76.0 x 55.8 in
0-60 mph 5.1 sec
Quarter mile 13.5 sec @ 105.8 mph
Braking, 60-0 mph 108 ft
Lateral acceleration 0.95 g (avg)
MT figure eight 25.7 sec @ 0.72 g (avg)
EPA city/hwy fuel econ 16/24 mpg
MT observed fuel econ 16.8 mpg
CO2 emissions 1.03 lb/mile
It would be ideal to compare these cars head to head.  Lacking that, here’s some similar Motor Trend test data for the Cadillac CTS-V:

Motor Trend Data: 2009 Cadillac CTS-V

2009 Cadillac CTS-V
POWERTRAIN/CHASSIS
Drivetrain layout Front engine, RWD
Engine type Supercharged 90-deg V-8, alum block and heads
Valvetrain OHV, 2 valves/cyl
Displacement 376.1 cu in/6162 cc
Compression ratio 9.0:1
Power (SAE NET) 556 hp @ 6100 rpm*
Torque (SAE NET) 551 lb-ft @ 3800 rpm*
Redline 6200 rpm
Weight to power 7.7 lb/hp
Transmission 6-speed automatic
Axle/final-drive ratios 3.23:1/2.16:1
Suspension, front; rear Control arms, coil springs, adj shocks, anti-roll bar; multi-link, coil springs, adj shocks, anti-roll bar
Steering ratio 16.1:1
Turns lock-to-lock 2.6
Brakes, f;r 14.6-in vented disc; 14.4-in vented disc, ABS
Wheels, f;r 9.0 x 19-in; 9.5 x 19-in, forged aluminum
Tires, f;r 255/40R19 96Y; 285/35R19 99Y Michelin Pilot Sport PS2
DIMENSIONS
Wheelbase 113.4 in
Track, f/r 61.8/62.0 in
Length x width x height 191.6 x 72.5 x 58.0 in
Turning circle 37.9 ft
Curb weight 4277 lb
Weight dist., f/r 54/46%
Seating capacity 5
Headroom, f/r 38.8/37.2 in
Legroom, f/r 42.4/35.9 in
Shoulder room, f/r 56.7/57.4 in
Cargo volume 13.6 cu ft
TEST DATA
Acceleration to mph
0-30 1.8 sec
0-40 2.6
0-50 3.3
0-60 4.3
0-70 5.5
0-80 6.8
0-90 8.1
0-100 9.7
Passing, 45-65 mph 2
Quarter mile 12.6 @ 114.6 mph
Braking, 60-0 mph 106 ft
MT figure eight 25.1 sec @ 0.75 g (avg)
Lateral acceleration 0.94 g
Top-gear revs @ 60 mph 1800 rpm
CONSUMER INFO
Base price $60,700
Price as tested $66,835
Stability/traction control Yes/yes
Airbags Dual front, front side, front/rear curtain
Basic warranty 4 yrs/50,000 miles
Powertrain warranty 5 yrs/100,000 miles
Roadside assistance 5 yrs/100,000 miles
Fuel capacity 18.0 gal
EPA city/hwy econ 14/19 mpg
CO2 emissions 1.22 lb/mi
Recommended fuel Unleaded premium

Read more: Motor Trend Test

Conclusions?

  • The more expensive, Porsche Panamera Turbo, at 500 hp, comes closer to CTS-V performance than the Panamera S  model, but is unlikely to be directly shopped with a CTS-V since it costs roughly twice as much as the Cadillac.
  • The CTS-V has more power, at 556 hp/551 lb-ft vs 400-hp/369 lb-ft for the Porsche Panamera S, but weighs slighly more at 4,300 lbs vs 4,137 lbs.
  • The CTS-V acceleration numbers are notably stronger, with an advantage of 0.8 sec 0-60, at 4.3 sec for the Cadillac vs 5.1 sec for the Porsche.  At the quartermile the difference is still 0.9 sec, placing these two cars in different classes for acceleration.  Cadillac CTS-V: 12.6 @ 114.6 mph Porsche Panamera S: 13.5 sec @ 105.8 mph
  • Cornering:  The Porsche has the advantage here, pulling 0.94 g’s on the skidpad vs 0.93 g’s for the Cadillac.  However, the CTS-V powers ahead in the Figure-8: 25.1 sec @ 0.75 g (avg) for the Cadillac vs 25.7 sec @ 0.72 g (avg) for the Porsche.
  • The Porsche has the advantage in fuel economy, at 16/24 mpg city/highway vs a thirsty 14/19 mpg city/highway for the Cadillac.
  • The CTS-V is almost $30K less expensive than the Porsche, with the Cadillac CTS-V at $60.7K, and the Porsche Panamera S at $90.7K (starting prices).