Sighting the sweet spot in used car pricing

Generally, cars depreciate.  Once you drive your new car off the new car lot, it becomes less desirable for me to buy from you versus buying the same car from the Dealer.    Another way to think of it is that your car’s resale value goes from the retail price you paid for it to the wholesale price you could resell it for.

After a few years, a car’s depreciation starts to level out.  My current 2005 Cadillac is depreciating at around $1.5K per year.  At some point depreciation basically stops, and occasionally a vehicle starts to appreciate in value.  For the most part however in most cases cars lose a lot of value in the first year or two, then lesser amounts until you are ready to sell/trade/move on to your next vehicle.

I’m setting my sights on grabbing up a 2008 Cadillac STS-V, or a 2010 Cadillac CTS Premium Model.  Honorable mention to a 2009 Cadillac CTS Premium Collection, but there is a minor detail that drives me to prefer the 2010 because of the way that the keyless ignition is implemented (button vs switch).

Edmund’s offers a true cost to own analysis.  What they suggest is that a 2010 Cadillac Premium has an initial cost (with no other options) of $46K.  In the first year of ownership it will depreciate around $10K.  Now, no one is going to post their 1 year old car for sale at a $10K decrease, but that would be our target for grabbing up a 1 year old 2010 CTS Premium.

2010 Cadillac CTS Year 1 Year 2 Year 3 Year 4 Year 5 5-yr Total
Depreciation $10,425 $4,887 $4,301 $3,814 $3,423 $26,850

and, to get to closer to $30K as a target, we would need to wait and get a 2-year old 2010 CTS Premium in 2011.

Now, considering the 2008 Cadillac STS-V is a little more tricky, as it can only be evaluated by Edmunds as a used car, so we only see the further down the slope values.  Edmunds estimates that the STS-V is currently worth around $40K.  It originally sold for $78K+. Some examples are creeping into the low 30s but some are in the 50s still, so keep in mind that their estimate is an average. I changed the year #s to tie out with the way that they are evaluating:

2008 Cadillac STS-V Year 3 Year 4 Year 5 Year 6 Year 7 Total
Depreciation $4,826 $4,232 $3,723 $3,302 $2,962 $19,045

So the 2008 STS-V is depreciating at around $4-5K per year.  So if there are 2008 STS-V’s available now for $35K then next year they might be in the $30K range.

Conclusion:  In another 6-12 months one could expect to grab up a 2009 CTS Premium Collection or 2008 STS-V in the high 20s / low 30s if you hunt for the lower edge of the market / find a bargain.  Wait a year and the 2010 Cadillac CTS Premium Model might slide into the right range.

Comparing the 2008 Cadillac STS-V and the 2009 Cadillac CTS Sedan

I have been shopping for a nice, low mile 2008 Cadillac STS-V.   After test driving a new 2010 Cadillac SRX Premium Model, it struck me that a 2009 Cadillac CTS Premium Collection might be a terrific car for me, in that it captures all the cool features in the current Cadillacs, almost fits my budget, is a newer vehicle, and gets the high MPG that the STS-V would not.

Both of these vehicles are ‘fully loaded’, and share a lot of features.  The STS-V has a longer wheelbase (116.4″ vs 113.4″) which goes to more rear leg room,  and weighs more (4,394 lbs vs 3874 lbs largely due to the added performance gear).  Otherwise, what features would one have that the other would not?

Equipment on the STS-V not available in the CTS or similar but different:

  • Engine, Northstar supercharged 4.4L V8 DOHC MFI, Variable Valve Timing (469 hp (349 kW] @ 6400 rpm, 439 lb-ft of torque [595 N-m] @ 3900 rpm) 13/19 mpg
  • Head-Up Display, 4-color, reconfigurable, with digital readouts for vehicle speed, selected gear, Adaptive Cruise Control indicator, audio system information, high-beam indicator, fuel level and 5 language capability (English, French, German, Italian and Spanish)
  • Lane Departure Warning
  • Side Blind Zone Alert
  • Steering wheel, heated
  • Headlamps, IntelliBeam, automatic low/high beam control
  • Audio system with navigation, AM/FM stereo with Bose 5.1 Studio Surround sound system, 6-disc in-dash CD/DVD changer and DVD-based advanced navigation, Bluetooth phone interface, includes seek-and-scan, digital clock, Radio Data System (RDS), TheftLock, AudioPilot automatic volume control, weather band, digital signal processing, rear passenger A/V jacks and 15 speakers
  • Premium Steering Gear, ZF
  • Tires, P255/45R18 front and P275/40R19 rear, Pirelli, W-rated, EMT, blackwall
  • Chassis:  Sigma 1 with FE4 suspension

Features available on the 2009 Cadillac CTS not available on the 2008 Cadillac STS-V:

  • 3.6L Variable Valve Timing V6 DI Direct Injection (304 hp [226.7 kW] @ 6400 rpm, 273 lb-ft of torque [368.6 N-m] @ 5200 rpm) 17/26 mpg
  • Adaptive headlight system
  • Accent Lighting
  • Ultraview sunroof (the STS-V has a sunroof, but not the Ultraview)
  • Audio system with navigation, AM/FM stereo with CD/DVD player, MP3 playback, Bose 5.1 Cabin Surround Sound 10-speaker system and HDD-based navigation with XM NavTraffic/Real Time Weather, 8″ pop-up screen, Radio Data System (RDS), 40GB Hard Drive Device (HDD), USB with audio connectivity with steering wheel controls
  • Tires, P235/50R18 V-rated all-season, blackwall
  • Chassis:  Sigma 2 with FE2 suspension (or FE3 with Summer Tire package)

My conclusion?  After driving both, the Cadillac CTS Sedan has more edgy styling.  Clearly the more expensive Cadillac STS-V has more features even than a Premium Collection CTS.  It will likely depend on the examples of each I find in my shopping as to which one gets the final nod.

I’ll have the keyless access in my Cadillac please

Tucked into the Premium package of the Cadillac SRX and Cadillac CTS or available as a separate feature of the Luxury or Performance models is the Luxury Level 2 option package.  Here is the example from the 2010 CTS order book:

Luxury Level Two Package, includes (KB6) heated/ventilated front seats, (AM9) split-folding rear seat, (N38) power rake wheel and telescopic steering column, (ATH) Keyless Access-Passive Entry, (BTV) Keyless Access-Remote Start (not available with [MN6] 6-speed manual transmission), (BTM) Keyless Access-Keyless Ignition, (K14) Automatic cabin odor filtration and (UD7) Ultrasonic Rear Parking Assist

I had seen “Keyless Access” as a feature of the SRX Premium, but that simply confused me.    All Cadillacs tend to be keyless access right?  They all have remotes to lock or unlock the doors, etc.

What Cadillac is featuring with the Keyless Access Options is the idea that you never have to get the key fob out of your pocket or purse, it just has to be with you.

  • Keyless Access – Passive Entry: allows you to simply walk up to the car and open the door.  If it senses you have the key with you, the door unlocks.
  • Keyless Access – Keyless Ignition: press the brake pedal, and push a button to start the Cadillac.  If it senses you have the key with you, the car starts.

These may sound to you like “so what”? options, but let me assure you that in person in the Cadillac, they are very cool.  It is fun to simply walk up to the Cadillac, and have it recognize you and open the doors.  It is fun to push a button to start the car, and have it crank right up.  Of course the gauges and digital displays on the instrument panels of current Cadillacs are busy at startup putting on a digital display, so it all becomes entertainment.

Keyless Access is a desirable feature, and one I will shop for in my next Cadillac.