2010 Cadillac CTS vs 2010 Camaro Suspension

The Cadillac CTS has a 3L or 3.6L (LLT) Direct-injection V6 on a premium “Sigma II” chassis.  The new 2010 Chevrolet Camaro has a 3.6L (LLT) Direct Injection V6 or choice of 6.2L V8s (auto/manual have different V8s), on the “Zeta” chassis.

So what is the difference between these two mid-size, rear-wheel drive chasses?  Let’s read through the product catalogs:

Driving dynamics– 2010 Cadillac CTS

The CTS chassis enables a great balance of performance and luxury. The hardware includes structural enhancements via a tower-to-tower brace; large, four-wheel disc brakes and premium steering. Three suspension tuning levels are available: FE1 (standard), FE2 (standard on 3.6L models and optional on 3.0L models) and the FE3 sport suspension with a summer-only tire (RWD only).

All models feature an independent short/long arm (SLA) front suspension system, with performance characteristics optimized with the use of low-mass aluminum for the upper and lower control arms, as well as the knuckles. Hydraulic control arm front bushings are used for motion control and help minimize high-speed road vibration by damping energy transmitted through the vehicle structure. Also, hollow front stabilizer bars bring weight savings and are sized specifically to each of the three available suspension levels.

A multi-link rear suspension, with a fully isolated subframe that delivers excellent kinematics, contributes to a superior ride with excellent handling. The CTS Sport Wagon also features advanced chassis technology in the form of Cadillac’s StabiliTrak electronic chassis control system. It integrates the car’s standard four-channel ABS with the full-function traction control, hydraulic brake assist and engine drag control systems.

2010 Cadillac CTS Suspension choices:

FE1 FE2 FE3 CTS-V
Configuration RWD or AWD RWD or AWD RWD RWD
Differential: open limited-slip limited-slip limited-slip
Front: independent SLA with monotube shock absorbers; 24-mm hollow stabilizer bar (RWD); 33-mm hollow stabilizer bar (AWD) independent SLA with monotube shock absorbers; 29-mm hollow stabilizer bar (RWD); 33-mm hollow stabilizer bar (AWD) independent SLA with monotube shock absorbers; 29-mm hollow stabilizer bar independent SLA; 29-mm hollow stabilizer bar; elastomeric handling and ride bushings; 65-N/mm spring rate; Magnetic Ride Control with electro-magnetically controlled shocks
Rear : independent multi-link with monotube shock absorbers; 18-mm hollow stabilizer bar (RWD); 19 mm hollow stabilizer bar (AWD) independent multi-link with monotube shock absorbers; 20-mm hollow stabilizer bar (RWD); 19-mm hollow stabilizer bar (AWD) independent multi-link with monotube shock absorbers; 20-mm hollow stabilizer bar independent SLA; 24-mm solid stabilizer bar; elastomeric trailing arm bushing; 90-N/mm spring rate; Magnetic Ride Control with electro-magnetically controlled shocks

Here is the product catalog description for the Camaro suspension:

Chassis and suspension– 2010 Chevrolet Camaro

Fully independent front and rear suspensions are the underpinnings of the 2010 Camaro. The standard independent rear suspension is a first for Camaro and is designed to compete with the best in the world. It’s a 4.5-link system that includes a unique, L-shaped upper control arm that attaches to the knuckle at one end and incorporates a ride bushing in the rear.

Two suspension packages are offered: FE2 sport on V-6 models and FE3 performance with the V-8. The front suspension has a dual ball strut system, with a direct-acting stabilizer bar that measures 22.2 x 4 mm on FE2 and 23 x 4.2 mm on FE3. Hollow bars are used for mass savings. Rear suspension features include high lateral stiffness for handling via three lateral ball joints per side. A sub-frame at the rear is double-isolated to minimize vehicle body motions and dampen road imperfections. Coil-over shock absorbers are used in the rear with a decoupled, hollow stabilizer bar. FE2 includes a 21.7 x 3 mm rear bar, while the FE3’s large bar measures 23 x 3 mm.

2010 Camaro Chassis / Suspension

Front: double-ball-joint, multi-link strut; direct-acting stabilizer bar; progressive-rate coil springs; fully adjustable camber, caster and toe
Rear: 4.5-link independent; progressive-rate coil springs over shocks; stabilizer bar; fully adjustable camber and toe

Conclusion?  Very similar descriptions.  In summary one might say:

  • The CTS suspension has more aluminum components and more isolation as one would expect from a Luxury chassis. The CTS uses a short/long arm front suspension and a mult-link rear suspension.
  • The Camaro suspension features a double pivot McPhearson front strut suspension, and an independent rear suspension system very similar to that of Sigma II but using cheaper steel rather than aluminum to save cost.

The 64,000 Mile Question

Just turning over 64K on my 2005 Cadillac CTS 3.6L. Not a large mileage total for a 5 year-old car (the 2010s are out now!). Actually I purchased the car in the Spring, so not quite 5 years in our driveway.

Problems? Nope, great car. I did have to have the TCM replaced a bit back after the transmission became sluggish to shift, but the Cadillac has always done what I wanted it to do, and taken me right along to where I needed to go. Certainly one of the most reliable, trouble free vehicles I have owned (knock on wood).

Only maintenance other than oil and filters has been front brake pads. I have added some items, such as the rear spoiler, and some updates as the newer models came along with them — colored center caps, a rear spoiler, wood shift knob etc.

This one is still covered under an extended GMAC warranty for another year or so, then I’ll need to decide if we are ready to look for the next Cadillac. GM and Cadillac have some very interesting vehicles coming out soon — the CTS Coupe, the new smaller-than-a-CTS ATS, and the XTS luxury sedan. Meanwhile several of the V-series certified used cars are coming tantalizingly close to my sweet spot of warranty remaining and price for performance.

BUT the really lucky thing is I have this great sport sedan that performs well, drives beautifully, and looks good. I suspect it will continue to do so for years to come.

Dyno Tuning for the 2005 CTS LY7?

I see a shop in Garland Texas (ExaTorq) offers dyno tuning using Wester’s Garage or HPTuners. Both appear to support the LY7 V6 in my 2005 CTS, so I emailed to see if I can arrange to have the CTS dyno tuned. Another 10-15hp would put the CTS low times for 0-60 mph consistently under 6 sec, which is my goal for the CTS.

Last test results, during the AP-22 side by side with the Performancebox report here.