Cadillac XLR Tuning LH2 V8 – Tune 5B PE Ramp

Today’s road test is a repeat of the previous test to add to the baseline for Tune 5.  The only change from previous was to decrease the TUTD shift speed by 1 mph to 81, and to change the PE ramp from 0.1 to 1.0 (range 0.01 to 2).  This value effects how quickly the engine attempts to reach the PE fueling value.  Since the commanded air fuel ratio is now set constant from low RPM to high, we would expect this to have impact only just after wide open throttle is reached.

XLR Tune5B to Tune 5

Today’s run is in Blue, and we are comparing to the Tune 5 run in red.  What I see is the runs are very close.  Today’s somewhat better torque may be an (additional) effect of cooler air, or it may be helped by the PE ramp up.  We’ll see how other runs look — certainly I don’t see any disadvantage from the higher PE ramp.

XLR Tune 5B calc hp peak

The calculated HP peak was at 6554 RPM.  ECT 194F, ambient 88F, Intake air 90F, MAT 115F.  Some IAT retard.  Peak advance ~26.5 degrees.

Madtuner.com offers a tune for the LH2; they did work on a 2005 STS in 2012 and showed this dyno chart for before / after:

This looks very similar to what I am seeing with the LH2 in my XLR.  They had some glitch in the base tune, but I am looking at the shape of the before & after curves — the HP peaks at 5400 or so and is flat until 6000.  They stop the scan at 6000 rpm for some reason — I suppose because the engine wasn’t making more power past that.  They don’t mention the specifics of their tune.

Cadillac XLR 320 hp picks up 12 whp with Magnaflow catback

Cadillac XLR 320 hp picks up 12 whp with Magnaflow catback

The Magnaflow performance exhaust for the Cadillac XLR shows a similar shape in the before and after — HP peaking near 5400 RPM and dropping to past 6000 rpm.

320 hp LH2 Rear-wheel Drive Variant

320 hp LH2 Rear-wheel Drive Variant

GM powertrain showed the LH2 continuing to improve hp until 6400 rpm.  Redline is at 6700 rpm.  Note that the GM plot is an engine dyno, and the Madtuners and Virtual Dyno plots are hp at the rear wheels, so we expect them to be different due to drivetrain, friction,  and aero losses.  The part I am considering is the shape of the curve — the engine dyno showed that the LH2 makes a bit more power from 5500-6400 RPM.  To be fair, it is not on the same up-slope as 1000-5500 RPM.

Today’s test added to the Tune 5 baseline.  The Madtuner result is supportive that there is more to be gained here somewhere.  The Madtuner experience closely mirrors my results and varies from the engine dyno.  More testing to follow.

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Cadillac XLR Tune 5: Back to Basics, Glitches and All

If you are not getting the results you expect, reset and try again.  Today I moved to Tune 5, which is the OEM calibration with only changes to TUTD shift, top speed, and MAF calibration for the Volant.  No AFR baseline changes, no stoich, no timing changes.

During the test run I was very disappointed to see the calculated HP only topped out at 200 hp or so.  Then I realized the VCM scanner had crashed along the way due to some laptop or scanning glitch.  I reset the scanner, and checked the cables and the hptuners interface. Then the XLR crashed – hard.  Every system reported with beeping and dinging and flashing and attention getting displays that it was not happy.  At that point the scanner would not connect to the car, the car was having a crisis, and I was quite concerned.

I share this with you so if you are ever busy testing this or that and everything goes to heck in a hand-basket, you know that’s a regular thing.

Eventually through some combination of resetting all the hardware including the XLR I was able to get the scanner to talk to the XLR, clear all DTCs, and properly scan for outputs again.  Then I went back to testing.

XLR Tune 5 vs Tune 4c vs first volant vs 4B2

With the reset the Intake air temps were up to 113F to start the test, sliding down to 106F at test end.  I don’t have a perfect way to model that so I used 110F as an average; (110F vs 106F is 1 hp delta at peak).   ECT was 205F. Ambient air was 102F.

In this graph the Yellow/Gold line is today’s test.  The Red and green lines are prior Tune 4 runs, and the Blue line is the first Volant test.

What I suspected was the PE changes were causing the slight dip between 5500-6000 and we see some improvement there in today’s run.   The timing changes overall seem to help at lower RPM but don’t appear to be a disadvantage at high RPM.

XLR Tune5 Run2

The increase in TUTD shift speed to 82 did hold the shift til after/at 6700 RPM but there was some fuel cutout prior to shift, so I’ll move that down 1 mph to 81 mph.  I could go back to default functionality of the TUTD which is not to shift automatically at all but for street driving I like the ability to use TUTD to select current gear but have the trans shift at redline.

XLR Tune 5 Test R2 Alone

This graph shows today’s Virtual Dyno test result alone.

Overall I am happy the testing glitch straightened out.  I think pulling back the PE in Tune 5 to OEM helped.  I am still not sure why we see an upward slope in some tests from 6000-6700 rpm and not in others.  I was hoping that was just a test capture issue, but the test result looks flat from 5500-redline.   Recall the AFR goes 0.5 richer for piston protection at 6000 RPM, so that may have an effect, or simply the hot air and timing that is pulled in that region for IAT and ECT, or (not sure).

Next is more baseline testing with Tune 5, or 5B with the slight mph change.

Thanks for reading along; if you have suggestions or wisdom to share please reply below.

 

 

Cadillac XLR Tune 3 MAF Tuning & Tune 4

There are several things you don’t want to have happen when you are tuning a car:

  • Tuning laptop crash
  • Communication / connection / gadget problems
  • Unintended tune changes
  • Changing conditions

I think I saw them all today, but here is what I think I learned.

First, I worked on MAF tuning.  With the recent addition of the Volant intake, my long term fuel trims were up 8-12%.  The MAF is tuned for the factory intake, so presenting it with a different air flow is not surprising that it would need some instruction.  In order to tune the MAF I compared long term fuel trims and short term fuel trims with the MAF signal, and used the fuel trim results to adjust the MAF signal in HPtuners.  This calibrates the MAF so that it correctly measures the incoming air with the Volant intake.  now my long term fuel trims are closer to +-5%.  I will keep collecting more data and trim them in.

XLR Tune3MAF to Tune4

That produced the RED line – Tune3MAF+Volant.  I was disappointed with this lower HP — the prior baseline runs were 231-236 whp.  I was predicting that tuning the MAF would pull the actual AFR (Air fuel ratio) back to commanded, and that the prior runs were slightly too lean for max power.  So I expected to see today’s test several whp above prior tests, but that was not the result I got.

Certainly it is hot here, and I had the XLR out all day and in the sun, and that effects the tests, but I am not certain yet why the tuned MAF version was not better.

I started a new Tune4, which takes our 50% of the IAT retard at 212F, and 50% of the ECT retard at 212F.  It also turns the engine fans up sooner to try to keep the ECT lower.  I like to have the TUTD (touch up touch down) transmission shift itself at redline, so I modified the transmission programming to have it do that.

This transmission programming caused a bit of a testing issue, as the default is not to shift at redline and so my next test didn’t get to 6700 rpm.  The blue line in the graph doesn’t rev fully to redline.   I have moved the shift up 2 mph further to improve the RPM span for the next update.

The Tune4 line in BLUE also has 2 degrees of advance except where there was some knock retard, and reductions in timing there.  The next update will have a few more reductions around knock — basically by reducing the IAT and ECT retards, and increasing the base spark, I am near the knock limit at mid-RPM (4500-5200).

XLR Tune4 1020

Tune4 looks promising overall.  I hope to get a cold/cold test in tomorrow morning early, which may tell more about the ‘range’ of our current baseline.  With a bit more touch up this will complete air and fueling, and after more baselines I would like to do some VVT tests.

Update:  Next morning cool air test

XLR Tune4B2 compare Tune4 and Tune3

In this graph the green line is 9/5 AM in cooler air, with XLR not heat soaked.  Again, I expected this to be higher than the blue result but it was not.  I conclude from this that heat effect is not what is causing the lower than expected result.

XLR Tune4b vs Tune3 hptuners

Hptuners scan at calculated hp peak.  Note IAT is at ambient, and MAT is all the way down at 112F, with ECT at 189F.

UPDATE after Tune 6D:

I have re-visited all of my tune logs, and I suspect that the adjustments to the MAF were good outside of WOT, but not in the WOT range.  I have extrapolated from the pre-WOT range to correct the WOT range of frequencies.  This would have effected everything from Tune 4 (right after Volant install) to now.