Re: 2012 Cadillac ATS Still in the Works

Edmund’s InsideLine has an interesting news mention here: 2012 Cadillac ATS Still in the Works.  They show a picture of the BLS, but at least they put in a Cadillac pic.

The Cadillac ATS of course is the ‘Smaller-than-a-CTS’ BMW 3-Series Killer we are waiting for.  Hearing that it might come along as a 2012 model is startling, and seems unlikely, but would be exciting if it does.  A 2012 model of course would arrive in 2011.  Surely we would have a Concept car or rolling examples now if the ATS were really coming out next year.

Although the title of the Article mentions 2012 ATS, the text actually says “debut” in 2012, which might mean a 2013 model, or might mean a 2014 model (the XTS ‘debuted’ this year but is at least 2 years out).

No news on what chassis the ATS will arrive on.  My favorite is still the Alpha, which was to be an extended Kappa platform, or a mix of Kappa and Sigma.

Also possible is that the ATS will arrive as an AWD vehicle on the shortest Epsilon II platform.

ATS fast facts:

  • Alpha / ATS internally informally referred to as the “BMW fighter” [good]
  • small, rear-wheel drive luxury car for the Cadillac division [confirmed, good]
  • Compete head-on with the German carmaker’s 3-series sedan [yes]
  • “This car has to speak for itself,” Reuss said in a recent interview. “Before, it was all about playing defense instead of offense.” [good]
  • Now, the engineering and purchasing executives are meeting together with important suppliers to stress that GM will pay top dollar if it gets the most advanced technology before other automakers. [good; not sure what they have in mind for the ATS here, but interesting]

In terms of the debate between a folding soft-top or a folding hardtop (as found on the XLR), I would need to hear more about how much the folding hardtop compromises in terms of lost trunk space.   I assume the Cadillac Engineers are comparing how quiet they can make the soft top (a hard top would give more isolation) versus how much more compact the soft top is than the hard top.  The folding hard tops add complication, but they are becoming more and more standard on convertibles.  Convertible sales across the market as a whole are down somewhat, but I would like to see the ATS convertible arrive on schedule.

Great news that Cadillac is still planning Sedan, Coupe, and Convertible variants.  This car need to sell 100K + cars per year in order to compete with 3-Series Sales.

Read more about the Cadillac ATS in our ATS Category.

Update: Steering the Cadillac ATS #NewGM

Automotive news has a good article about changes at GM to the way that purchasing is organized.  Here is a link to the original article: GM purchasing gets a re-engineering – Automotive News.

The Cadillac ATS (new vehicle on the way that is Smaller than a CTS, also known sometimes as Alpha, or BMW Fighter) steering info:

Stephens said the integration already is paying off. GM executives point to their recent selection of a more expensive power-steering supplier over a cheaper offer because the winning supplier offered a more desirable technology. That decision — for a future rear-wheel-drive Cadillac sedan that GM employees call the “BMW fighter” — was made jointly by purchasing and engineering, Stephens said.

This was previously mentioned in this article Re: GM to lavish cash on new vehicles [Like the ATS], although from a different point of view.  Clearly the ATS is getting some interesting steering setup that will allow it to meet or exceed state of the art steering ‘feel’.  Because the ATS is aimed squarely at the BMW 3-series, steering feel and performance can be a make-or-break attribute for this new Cadillac.  Spending money on a terrific steering system is perfectly value added, because it may directly influence purchasing decisions.

One of the slogans that Mercedes uses for their E class is “Built to a standard”, not to a price point.  By this they would like to suggest that the vehicle vision and specification were attained with cost as a dependent variable to the selected design.  This appears to be what Cadillac is doing with the ATS as well — building it as a better, more capable Cadillac, seeking best value rather than the lowest cost supplier in each case.  This makes tremendous sense to me, although I am somewhat troubled with  highlighting this as a change — I would have expected it to be the way that GM was previously making Cadillacs.

The article goes on to detail that Engineering and Purchasing have now aligned their organization structures and are co-locating their personnel so that they can more easily team with each other and with suppliers.  All good, and certainly good to start doing now if it was not already being done.

The article also mentions Amerigon thermoelectrics.  Amerigon makes the heating/cooling elements for Cadillac seats.  They also offer heated or cooled cup holders.  They use a peltier effect system.

BENEFITS OF THERMOELECTRIC HEATING AND COOLING:

  • Ability to cool or heat by simply reversing the current flow
  • Solid-state, few or no moving parts
  • Rugged, highly reliable assemblies
  • Very effective for automatic temperature control
  • Quiet, small, lightweight
  • Environmentally safe

It will be interesting to see what else GM has in mind for this system. Perhaps we will yet see the return of the heated washer fluid reservoir, or heated/cooled steering wheels.

Re: GM to lavish cash on new vehicles [Like the ATS]

A few interesting mentions here of the upcoming smaller than a CTS model, the ATS or Alpha:

  • Alpha / ATS internally informally referred to as the “BMW fighter”
    [good]
  • small, rear-wheel drive luxury car for the Cadillac division
    [confirmed, good]
  • Compete head-on with the German carmaker’s 3-series sedan
    [yes]
  • “This car has to speak for itself,” Reuss said in a recent interview. “Before, it was all about playing defense instead of offense.”
    [good]
  • Now, the engineering and purchasing executives are meeting together with important suppliers to stress that GM will pay top dollar if it gets the most advanced technology before other automakers.
    [good; not sure what they have in mind for the ATS here, but interesting]
  • “With the BMW fighter, the steering in that vehicle is going to be absolutely critical,” said Reuss. “In the past we would have gone to the lowest cost source, but not anymore.”
    [Steering feel is an area that BMW is considered world class.]

Read the entire article, A FLUSH GM TO LAVISH CASH ON NEW VEHICLES

The NY Times also carried the article here: A FLUSH GM TO LAVISH CASH ON NEW VEHICLES

Nothing new, except the emphasis on value for the money over lowest cost supplier.  Good to continue to confirm the ATS or BMW Fighter (BFS?) as a rear wheel drive “ultimate driving machine”.  The ATS will need plenty of go to match up with the BMW 335i and its “300 hp” inline 6 turbo, since it actually makes 340 hp or so.

Other ATS / Alpha articles here.