{"id":9984,"date":"2011-06-15T07:25:32","date_gmt":"2011-06-15T12:25:32","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/caddyinfo.com\/wordpress\/?p=9984"},"modified":"2011-06-15T09:08:16","modified_gmt":"2011-06-15T14:08:16","slug":"a-tale-of-two-blown-4-4l-v8s-bmw-cadillac","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.caddyinfo.com\/wordpress\/a-tale-of-two-blown-4-4l-v8s-bmw-cadillac\/","title":{"rendered":"A tale of two Blown 4.4L V8s &#8211; BMW &#038; @Cadillac"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The new 2012 BMW M5 uses the twin-scroll, twin-turbo 4.4L V8 from the BMW X5M\/X6M SUVs.\u00a0 In the 2009 BMW trucks this powerplant made 547 hp, in 2010 555 hp, but in the new M5 makes 552 hp.\u00a0\u00a0 This all seems to need a bit more sorting.<\/p>\n<p>This engine is the BMW S63, which is a twin-scroll version of the N63 V8.\u00a0 For the 09 trucks it makes 547 hp at 6000 rpm and 500 lb ft of torque at 1500-5650 rpm.\u00a0 As in the N63, the turbos are mounted in the V of the engine.\u00a0 The engines do not appear to use the BMW valvetronic (variable valve timing used instead of a throttle), since there is a perception that it is not needed with a turbocharged vehicle, but are double Vanos systems (variable valve timing,\u00a0 abbr. from German <em><strong>va<\/strong>riable <strong>No<\/strong>ckenwellen<strong>s<\/strong>teuerung<\/em>, or variable camshaft control).<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_9985\" style=\"width: 1010px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"http:\/\/caddyinfo.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/06\/P90045751.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-9985\" class=\"size-full wp-image-9985\" title=\"P90045751\" src=\"http:\/\/caddyinfo.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/06\/P90045751.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1000\" height=\"756\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.caddyinfo.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/06\/P90045751.jpg 1000w, http:\/\/www.caddyinfo.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/06\/P90045751-500x378.jpg 500w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1000px) 100vw, 1000px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-9985\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">BMW S63 Engine<\/p><\/div>\n<p>BMW fansites were predicting 585-600 hp for the S63 in the M5, so 552 hp is a bit of a surprise.<\/p>\n<p>A blown 4.4L V8 seems familiar &#8212; ah yes, that&#8217;s what I have in my 2008 Cadillac STS-V!\u00a0 Of course, mine is supercharged and not a turbo model as in the BMW, and makes only 469hp instead of 552 hp.\u00a0 The Cadillac uses 12 psi of boost, while the BMW pushes that dial up to 22 psi of boost.\u00a0 At around 4 % improvement per PSI, a LC3 running 17 psi would make similar numbers, but would run out of the boost range for the custom Eaton M122 supercharger in the Cadillac V8.\u00a0 (The <a title=\"Stiegemeier Snake Bite\" href=\"http:\/\/www.stiegemeier.com\/cadillac.html\" target=\"_blank\">Stiegemeier snake bite <\/a>kit does hit 17 psi however&#8230;)<\/p>\n<p>[Updated] The BMW N63 makes similar boost pressure to the Cadillac LC3, at 11.6 psi but with a 10:1 compression ratio for the BMW.\u00a0 The N63 was rated at 400 hp vs the 469 for the 12 psi Cadillac.\u00a0 Both the N63 and S63 are direct injected engines.\u00a0 The S63 uses twin-scroll turbos, cross-flow turbo plumbing, lower compression at 9.3:1, and higher boost to build to 552 hp.<\/p>\n<p>The BMW SUVs have launch control, so hopefully the M5 will benefit from this as well.<\/p>\n<p>A bit surprising that BMW stopped short of exceeding the Cadillac CTS-V&#8217;s 556 hp.\u00a0 A shame really, as I would love to see Cadillac turn up the wick on the LSA 6.2L Supercharged V8 in the CTS-V a bit further to 600+ hp.<\/p>\n<p>More on HP: Confusingly the BMW engines are still rated in PS (German: <em>Pferdest\u00e4rke<\/em> = horse strength), which is a DIN standard mathematically different from British hp used in the USA.\u00a0 PS has been replaced by the kilowatt, but is still used.\u00a0 The 2010 BMW X5M made 414 kW, or 554 hp.\u00a0 F10.5post.com is quoting the new M5 at 560PS which converts to 552 hp, but is actually less than the 563 PS in the 2010 X5 M.\u00a0 Autoblog and Jalopnik are quoting the X5M at 547hp, but that was the 09 model.\u00a0 I&#8217;m sure this will get sorted, hashed, and be more clear presently.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The new 2012 BMW M5 uses the twin-scroll, twin-turbo 4.4L V8 from the BMW X5M\/X6M SUVs.\u00a0 In the 2009 BMW trucks this powerplant made 547 hp, in 2010 555 hp, but in the new M5 makes 552 hp.\u00a0\u00a0 This all &hellip; 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