{"id":16476,"date":"2013-05-25T09:11:48","date_gmt":"2013-05-25T14:11:48","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/caddyinfo.com\/wordpress\/?p=16476"},"modified":"2013-05-25T22:31:59","modified_gmt":"2013-05-26T03:31:59","slug":"more-air-filter-testing-kn-on-spectre-cai-coldfull","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.caddyinfo.com\/wordpress\/more-air-filter-testing-kn-on-spectre-cai-coldfull\/","title":{"rendered":"More Air Filter Testing &#8211; K&#038;N on Spectre CAI Cold\/Full"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I am gathering more test information using HPTuners and Virtual Dyno on my 2008 Cadillac STS-V across different modifications.\u00a0 Today&#8217;s runs with a full tank of gas and nice weather after an overnight rain.\u00a0 HPTuners shows the baro that the engine perceives, so I am using that for baro adjustments.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/caddyinfo.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/05\/KN-cold-2013-05-25-2-run-comparison-with-weird-midtorque-run-adjusted.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-large wp-image-16483\" alt=\"KN cold 2013-05-25 2 run comparison with weird midtorque run adjusted\" src=\"http:\/\/caddyinfo.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/05\/KN-cold-2013-05-25-2-run-comparison-with-weird-midtorque-run-adjusted-1024x686.jpg\" width=\"584\" height=\"391\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.caddyinfo.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/05\/KN-cold-2013-05-25-2-run-comparison-with-weird-midtorque-run-adjusted-1024x686.jpg 1024w, http:\/\/www.caddyinfo.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/05\/KN-cold-2013-05-25-2-run-comparison-with-weird-midtorque-run-adjusted-500x335.jpg 500w, http:\/\/www.caddyinfo.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/05\/KN-cold-2013-05-25-2-run-comparison-with-weird-midtorque-run-adjusted-447x300.jpg 447w, http:\/\/www.caddyinfo.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/05\/KN-cold-2013-05-25-2-run-comparison-with-weird-midtorque-run-adjusted.jpg 1364w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 584px) 100vw, 584px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>This morning&#8217;s run in red vs the previous odd run in blue.\u00a0 Today&#8217;s run showed the expected shapes &#8212; high torque at low RPM, high HP at high RPM.\u00a0 Huge torque reading at low RPM today.\u00a0 Not sure what additional variables the automatic transmission might be tossing in &#8212; these runs are in TUTD (touch up, touch down) mode with 2nd gear manually selected.\u00a0 I have also adjusted yesterday&#8217;s run to reflect that it was with lower fuel before I filled up today.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/caddyinfo.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/05\/hptuners-for-kn-cole-2013-05-25-1300203.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-large wp-image-16478\" alt=\"hptuners for kn cole 2013-05-25 1300203\" src=\"http:\/\/caddyinfo.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/05\/hptuners-for-kn-cole-2013-05-25-1300203-1024x718.jpg\" width=\"584\" height=\"409\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.caddyinfo.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/05\/hptuners-for-kn-cole-2013-05-25-1300203-1024x718.jpg 1024w, http:\/\/www.caddyinfo.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/05\/hptuners-for-kn-cole-2013-05-25-1300203-500x351.jpg 500w, http:\/\/www.caddyinfo.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/05\/hptuners-for-kn-cole-2013-05-25-1300203-427x300.jpg 427w, http:\/\/www.caddyinfo.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/05\/hptuners-for-kn-cole-2013-05-25-1300203.jpg 1393w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 584px) 100vw, 584px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The Virtual Dyno is estimating wheel horsepower.\u00a0 400 WHP with 20% drivetrain losses for an average automatic would equate to 500 hp at the crank.\u00a0 HP Tuners estimated the engine was making 543+ hp at the crank for an instant at 6651 RPM, and above 520 from 6300 RPM on; 1- 400\/520 hp\u00a0 which would be a 23% drivetrain loss.\u00a0 My goal for the STS-V was to get to a solid 400 WHP, which was reached with exhaust and CAI. Now I would like to get to a solid 425 WHP&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>After the huge mid-RPM torque and low high HP run in the comparison above, I made an adjustment to ensure the engine wasn&#8217;t limiting boost.\u00a0 In this theory, if the supercharger were breathing better and hit a higher boost point earlier than expected, the PCM might pull boost at high RPM.<\/p>\n<p>Today&#8217;s run showed the engine is pulling and building boost all the way to fuel cutoff.\u00a0 So either the previous odd run was just that, an odd dataset, or the new adjustments are working.<\/p>\n<p>Here is a comparison of last night&#8217;s hot run vs today&#8217;s cold run:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/caddyinfo.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/05\/kn-cold-2013-05-25-comparison-to-kn-hot-2013-05-24.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-large wp-image-16488\" alt=\"kn cold 2013-05-25 comparison to kn hot 2013-05-24\" src=\"http:\/\/caddyinfo.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/05\/kn-cold-2013-05-25-comparison-to-kn-hot-2013-05-24-1024x686.jpg\" width=\"584\" height=\"391\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.caddyinfo.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/05\/kn-cold-2013-05-25-comparison-to-kn-hot-2013-05-24-1024x686.jpg 1024w, http:\/\/www.caddyinfo.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/05\/kn-cold-2013-05-25-comparison-to-kn-hot-2013-05-24-500x335.jpg 500w, http:\/\/www.caddyinfo.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/05\/kn-cold-2013-05-25-comparison-to-kn-hot-2013-05-24-447x300.jpg 447w, http:\/\/www.caddyinfo.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/05\/kn-cold-2013-05-25-comparison-to-kn-hot-2013-05-24.jpg 1364w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 584px) 100vw, 584px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Both of these are adjusted for weight, barometer, and temperature per the SAE standard, so they should read identically (within the error of the method used).\u00a0 However, my STS-V is effected by heat to a greater degree than the standard adjustments correct so even with adjustments hot reflects lower results than cold.\u00a0 This has added a dimension to testing.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h2>Update:<\/h2>\n<p>Today&#8217;s graph had some data noise at the beginning of the run that caused the high torque spike.\u00a0 With that removed the updated graph below is correct for today:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/caddyinfo.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/05\/KN-2013-05-25-Correction.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-large wp-image-16533\" alt=\"KN 2013-05-25 Correction\" src=\"http:\/\/caddyinfo.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/05\/KN-2013-05-25-Correction-1024x779.jpg\" width=\"584\" height=\"444\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.caddyinfo.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/05\/KN-2013-05-25-Correction-1024x779.jpg 1024w, http:\/\/www.caddyinfo.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/05\/KN-2013-05-25-Correction-500x380.jpg 500w, http:\/\/www.caddyinfo.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/05\/KN-2013-05-25-Correction-394x300.jpg 394w, http:\/\/www.caddyinfo.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/05\/KN-2013-05-25-Correction.jpg 1202w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 584px) 100vw, 584px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I am gathering more test information using HPTuners and Virtual Dyno on my 2008 Cadillac STS-V across different modifications.\u00a0 Today&#8217;s runs with a full tank of gas and nice weather after an overnight rain.\u00a0 HPTuners shows the baro that the &hellip; 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