{"id":14021,"date":"2012-07-12T20:50:08","date_gmt":"2012-07-13T01:50:08","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/caddyinfo.com\/wordpress\/?p=14021"},"modified":"2012-07-12T20:50:27","modified_gmt":"2012-07-13T01:50:27","slug":"cadillac-ats-2-5","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.caddyinfo.com\/wordpress\/cadillac-ats-2-5\/","title":{"rendered":"Cadillac ATS 2.5 vs E30 BMW M3 2.3L?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Can you buy a Cadillac ATS 2.5L and imagine you are getting a modern E30 M3?\u00a0 How does the upcoming Cadillac ATS compare to the original 1986 E30 BMW M3?\u00a0 The Cadillac ATS 2.5L is the standard version of the upcoming ATS sports sedan.\u00a0 The E30 BMW M3 was the original M3, created in 1986 to race against the Mercedes W201 190E (1982-1993).<\/p>\n<div style=\"width: 540px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" title=\"BMW M3 E30\" src=\"http:\/\/upload.wikimedia.org\/wikipedia\/commons\/5\/52\/BMW_M3_E30.jpg\" alt=\"BMW M3 E30\" width=\"530\" height=\"233\" \/><p class=\"wp-caption-text\">BMW M3 E30<\/p><\/div>\n<p>The first M3 was something of a parts bin special, with bits of this BMW and that BMW to form an interesting new street fighter.\u00a0 It used the 4-cylinder engine from the 320 of the time, reinforced, and with valvetrain from the M1 supercar.\u00a0 The engine was designated S14.\u00a0 The 2.3L E30 M3 four-cylinder produced 192 hp at 6750 rpm and 177 lb ft of torque at 3750 rpm.<\/p>\n<div style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><strong>E30 BMW M3 Vehicle Dimensions<\/strong><\/div>\n<ul style=\"padding-left: 30px;\" type=\"disc\">\n<li style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><strong>weight\u00a0<\/strong>2866 lbs<\/li>\n<li style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><strong>wheelbase\u00a0<\/strong>101.0 in<\/li>\n<li style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><strong>front track\u00a0<\/strong>55.6 in<\/li>\n<li style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><strong>rear track\u00a0<\/strong>56.1 in<\/li>\n<li style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><strong>length <\/strong> 171.1 in<\/li>\n<li style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><strong>width\u00a0<\/strong>66.1 in<\/li>\n<li style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><strong>height <\/strong>53.9 in<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<div id=\"attachment_12691\" style=\"width: 594px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"http:\/\/caddyinfo.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/05\/CadillacATSatlanta02818.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-12691\" class=\"size-large wp-image-12691\" title=\"Cadillac ATS\" src=\"http:\/\/caddyinfo.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/05\/CadillacATSatlanta02818-1024x679.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"584\" height=\"387\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.caddyinfo.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/05\/CadillacATSatlanta02818-1024x679.jpg 1024w, http:\/\/www.caddyinfo.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/05\/CadillacATSatlanta02818-500x331.jpg 500w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 584px) 100vw, 584px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-12691\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The all-new Cadillac ATS navigates through the turns and straightaways at Atlanta Motorsports Park during performance testing Tuesday, May 8, 2012 in Dawsonville, Georgia. The Cadillac ATS is engineered to be the lightest compact luxury sports sedan, reducing weight through the use of advanced materials &#8211; but not at the expense of performance. (Photo by Sam Sharpe for Cadillac)<\/p><\/div>\n<h2>Cadillac ATS 2.5L<\/h2>\n<p>The Cadillac ATS 2.5L utilizes the new for 2013 GM 2.5L four cylinder.\u00a0 It produces 202 hp at 6300 rpm and 191 lb-ft of torque at 4400 rpm.\u00a0 Very light for a Cadillac, but bearing the improved safety and chassis rigidity of a modern car, the Cadillac ATS is heavier than the 1986 E30 M3.\u00a0 The new Cadillac ATS weighs in at 3,315 lbs, or 449 lbs more than the first gen BMW M3.<\/p>\n<div><strong>Cadillac ATS 2.5L Vehicle <a title=\"Cadillac ATS Specifications\" href=\"http:\/\/caddyinfo.com\/wordpress\/cadillac-how-to-faq\/2013-cadillac-ats-specifications\/\">Dimensions<\/a><\/strong><\/div>\n<ul type=\"disc\">\n<li><strong>weight <\/strong>3315 lbs<\/li>\n<li><strong>wheelbase\u00a0<\/strong>109.3 in<\/li>\n<li><strong>front track\u00a0<\/strong>59.5 in<\/li>\n<li><strong>rear track <\/strong>60.9 in<\/li>\n<li><strong>length <\/strong> 182.8 in<\/li>\n<li><strong>width <\/strong>71.1 in<\/li>\n<li><strong>height <\/strong>55.9 in<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2>Performance:<\/h2>\n<p>The E30 M3 could do 0\u201362\u00a0mph: 6.9 s. Top Speed: 146\u00a0mph<\/p>\n<p>The Cadillac ATS 2.5L is projected for 0-60: 7.5 s. Top Speed: not announced.\u00a0 However, since we know it comes with P225\/45R17 90H all-season tires then expect a speed limiter at 128-130 mph.\u00a0 Advantage: BMW<\/p>\n<h2>Cornering:<\/h2>\n<p>Skidpad numbers for the BMW are uncertain, but likely 0.87g or so.<\/p>\n<p>Skidpad numbers for the ATS 2.5L are uncertain, but likely 0.85g or so.<\/p>\n<p>Advantage: uncertain<\/p>\n<h2>Price:<\/h2>\n<p>Tip-top condition 50K mile M3: <a title=\"Enthusiast Auto.com\" href=\"http:\/\/enthusiastauto.com\/qsearch\/?form_request=56&amp;action=results&amp;showres=1&amp;1268_0=18&amp;selLevel_1268B0D=1&amp;selLevel_1268B1D=18&amp;1574_0=1\" target=\"_blank\">$37K+<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Brand new Cadillac 2.5L: $34K+<\/p>\n<p>Advantage: Cadillac<\/p>\n<h2>Miscellaneous Other non-performance stuff:<\/h2>\n<p>Luxury, features, interior space, MPG, etc all advantage Cadillac.<\/p>\n<p>Appearance a matter of taste.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_14063\" style=\"width: 360px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"http:\/\/caddyinfo.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/07\/13_lcv_2-5l_ats.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-14063\" class=\"size-full wp-image-14063\" title=\"13_lcv_2-5l_ats\" src=\"http:\/\/caddyinfo.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/07\/13_lcv_2-5l_ats.jpg\" alt=\"2.5L Cadillac ATS &quot;LCV&quot; Engine Dyno\" width=\"350\" height=\"327\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.caddyinfo.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/07\/13_lcv_2-5l_ats.jpg 350w, http:\/\/www.caddyinfo.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/07\/13_lcv_2-5l_ats-321x300.jpg 321w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 350px) 100vw, 350px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-14063\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">2.5L Cadillac ATS &#8220;LCV&#8221; Engine Dyno<\/p><\/div>\n<h2>\u00a0Summary<\/h2>\n<p>Okay, Bruce, Why did you slog through this comparison at all?<\/p>\n<p>It occurs to me that although the 2L Turbo Four and 3.6L V6 versions of the Cadillac ATS will get the enthusiast attention, and the 2.5L Four regarded as &#8216;to be avoided&#8217;, the standard 202 hp four may give an experience more like the original M3.<\/p>\n<p>Yes although the ATS is physically bigger than the E30 M3, it will have similar performance, and may be regarded to have similar charms.\u00a0 It will be easier to find a nice, unmolested example, and easier to keep up.\u00a0 But just as much fun on track days.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Can you buy a Cadillac ATS 2.5L and imagine you are getting a modern E30 M3?\u00a0 How does the upcoming Cadillac ATS compare to the original 1986 E30 BMW M3?\u00a0 The Cadillac ATS 2.5L is the standard version of the &hellip; <a href=\"http:\/\/www.caddyinfo.com\/wordpress\/cadillac-ats-2-5\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[30,264,6],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-14021","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-alpha","category-meet-the-current-cadillacs","category-site-info-news"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.caddyinfo.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/14021","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.caddyinfo.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.caddyinfo.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.caddyinfo.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.caddyinfo.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=14021"}],"version-history":[{"count":49,"href":"http:\/\/www.caddyinfo.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/14021\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":14071,"href":"http:\/\/www.caddyinfo.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/14021\/revisions\/14071"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.caddyinfo.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=14021"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.caddyinfo.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=14021"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.caddyinfo.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=14021"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}