{"id":10593,"date":"2011-07-16T17:08:48","date_gmt":"2011-07-16T22:08:48","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/caddyinfo.com\/wordpress\/?p=10593"},"modified":"2011-07-16T17:08:48","modified_gmt":"2011-07-16T22:08:48","slug":"cartest-cadillac-sts-v-vs-driver-temp-whp-final-drive-redline-topspeed","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.caddyinfo.com\/wordpress\/cartest-cadillac-sts-v-vs-driver-temp-whp-final-drive-redline-topspeed\/","title":{"rendered":"CarTest &#8211; Cadillac STS-V vs Driver, Temp, WHP, Final Drive, Redline, TopSpeed"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I enjoyed <a title=\"CarTest 2000\" href=\"http:\/\/www.cartestsoftware.com\/index.php\" target=\"_blank\">Cartest<\/a> back in the day in the dos version, and picked up the latest JAVA stand-alone version of CarTest 2000.\u00a0 CarTest is a simulation that makes it easy to compare a variety of parameters for your vehicle to determine likely effect if you change that parameter.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_10654\" style=\"width: 960px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"http:\/\/caddyinfo.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/07\/stsvsetup1.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-10654\" class=\"size-full wp-image-10654\" title=\"stsvsetup\" src=\"http:\/\/caddyinfo.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/07\/stsvsetup1.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"950\" height=\"560\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.caddyinfo.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/07\/stsvsetup1.png 950w, http:\/\/www.caddyinfo.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/07\/stsvsetup1-500x294.png 500w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 950px) 100vw, 950px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-10654\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">STS-V Cartest General parameters<\/p><\/div>\n<p>One parameter that gave me pause is the redline.\u00a0 I think of the redline for the STS-V as 6800 RPM, but I note that the &#8216;max shift speed&#8217; for the 6L80E transmission is 6500 RPM, and the fuel shut-off for the LC3 is 6700 rpm, so I need to research where the V shifts further.<\/p>\n<p>Cartest predicts a 2008 STS-V will go 0-60 mph in 4.68 sec with a 1 foot roll-out at 65F 29.9 baro 0% humidity and a 160 lb driver.<\/p>\n<p>In my <a title=\"First STS-V PerformanceBox\" href=\"http:\/\/caddyinfo.com\/wordpress\/?p=10064\" target=\"_blank\">first test<\/a> for my 08 STS-V at 87F and 29.69 baro humitity 64% I measured 5.39 sec 0-60 mph.\u00a0 If I put these parameters into Cartest the prediction would be 4.92 sec for those conditions.\u00a0 In the test I learned that I would need to launch my V carefully for the best times (no news there).<\/p>\n<p>In my<a title=\"2nd PerformanceBox Test STS-V\" href=\"http:\/\/caddyinfo.com\/wordpress\/?p=10128\"> second test<\/a> <strong>Conditions: Weather<\/strong>: 100F per the car, 96.5 at the weather station; baro 28.85 in I measured 5.29 sec; Cartest predicts 5.26 sec for 0-60 mph for those conditions.<\/p>\n<p>I read these Cartest predictions as what I should have been able to do with the V on those days.<\/p>\n<p>The car specific parameters are set by creating and modifying Car Specific parameters to be used in the place of the general parameters used below:<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_10655\" style=\"width: 957px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"http:\/\/caddyinfo.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/07\/cartestgenpara.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-10655\" class=\"size-full wp-image-10655\" title=\"cartestgenpara\" src=\"http:\/\/caddyinfo.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/07\/cartestgenpara.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"947\" height=\"680\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.caddyinfo.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/07\/cartestgenpara.png 947w, http:\/\/www.caddyinfo.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/07\/cartestgenpara-500x359.png 500w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 947px) 100vw, 947px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-10655\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Car Test General Parameters that can be modified with Car Specific Files<\/p><\/div>\n<p>The fun part of CarTest of course is predicting things we don&#8217;t know.\u00a0 For example, I am hoping that my upcoming Spectre Intake will add 40 whp and 40 lb-ft of torque.\u00a0 Here is a comparison back on the perfect 65F day with CarTest default standard conditions:<\/p>\n<table border=\"0\" frame=\"VOID\" rules=\"NONE\" cellspacing=\"0\">\n<colgroup>\n<col width=\"141\" \/>\n<col width=\"106\" \/>\n<col width=\"106\" \/><\/colgroup>\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td align=\"LEFT\" width=\"141\" height=\"66\">Selected Cars:<\/td>\n<td align=\"LEFT\" width=\"106\">1. CADILLAC STS-V 2008 BRUCE<\/td>\n<td align=\"LEFT\" width=\"106\">2. CADILLAC STS-V 2008 BRUCE SPECTRE<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td align=\"LEFT\" height=\"17\"><\/td>\n<td align=\"LEFT\"><\/td>\n<td align=\"LEFT\"><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td align=\"LEFT\" height=\"17\">Time to Speed sec<\/td>\n<td align=\"LEFT\"><\/td>\n<td align=\"LEFT\"><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td align=\"LEFT\" height=\"17\">0- 30 mph<\/td>\n<td align=\"RIGHT\">1.75<\/td>\n<td align=\"RIGHT\">1.61<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td align=\"LEFT\" height=\"17\">0- 40 mph<\/td>\n<td align=\"RIGHT\">2.75<\/td>\n<td align=\"RIGHT\">2.18<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td align=\"LEFT\" height=\"17\">0- 50 mph<\/td>\n<td align=\"RIGHT\">3.75<\/td>\n<td align=\"RIGHT\">3.68<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td align=\"LEFT\" height=\"17\">0- 60 mph<\/td>\n<td align=\"RIGHT\">4.75<\/td>\n<td align=\"RIGHT\">4.66<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td align=\"LEFT\" height=\"17\">0- 70 mph<\/td>\n<td align=\"RIGHT\">6.41<\/td>\n<td align=\"RIGHT\">6.20<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td align=\"LEFT\" height=\"17\">0- 80 mph<\/td>\n<td align=\"RIGHT\">8.00<\/td>\n<td align=\"RIGHT\">7.65<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td align=\"LEFT\" height=\"17\">0- 90 mph<\/td>\n<td align=\"RIGHT\">9.71<\/td>\n<td align=\"RIGHT\">9.20<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td align=\"LEFT\" height=\"17\">0-100 mph<\/td>\n<td align=\"RIGHT\">11.62<\/td>\n<td align=\"RIGHT\">10.93<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p>This resulted in the table above, predicting that the STS-V 0-60 time at 65F 29.9 baro 55% humidity with me driving with the new intake (hopefully) will drop from 4.75 sec to 4.66 sec.<\/p>\n<p>The Quartermile time would have more effect &#8212; dropping from 13.35 sec @ 105.55 mph to 13.12 sec @ 107 mph.\u00a0 Yes, I know that some people have done under 13 sec with modified STS-V&#8217;s, and good.\u00a0 One has to consider the conditions stated, which makes a difference.<\/p>\n<p>Wow you might think &#8212; add 40 hp and only get ~0.1 improvement 0-60?\u00a0 How does that make sense?\u00a0 The STS-V is not hp limited on the 0-60 run &#8212; it is traction limited.\u00a0\u00a0 Look at the whole table from 0-100 mph above and you can see a clear advantage predicted for the intake.<\/p>\n<p>Another fun option to consider &#8212; what is the ideal final drive ratio for the STS-V to maximize 0-60 time:<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_10669\" style=\"width: 1034px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"http:\/\/caddyinfo.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/07\/finaldrive475.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-10669\" class=\"size-large wp-image-10669\" title=\"finaldrive475\" src=\"http:\/\/caddyinfo.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/07\/finaldrive475-1024x277.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1024\" height=\"277\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.caddyinfo.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/07\/finaldrive475-1024x277.png 1024w, http:\/\/www.caddyinfo.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/07\/finaldrive475-500x135.png 500w, http:\/\/www.caddyinfo.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/07\/finaldrive475.png 1318w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-10669\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Parameter Sensitivity - Final Drive Ratio<\/p><\/div>\n<p>What this graph shows is the 0-60 time on the Y axis, using a variety of final drive ratios along the X axis.\u00a0 The actual final drive in the STS-V is 3.23:1, which appears to be almost perfect for the car.<\/p>\n<p>Remember my questions about the redline?\u00a0 What WOULD the ideal redline be:<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_10672\" style=\"width: 1034px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"http:\/\/caddyinfo.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/07\/redline3.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-10672\" class=\"size-large wp-image-10672\" title=\"redline3\" src=\"http:\/\/caddyinfo.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/07\/redline3-1024x277.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1024\" height=\"277\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.caddyinfo.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/07\/redline3-1024x277.png 1024w, http:\/\/www.caddyinfo.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/07\/redline3-500x135.png 500w, http:\/\/www.caddyinfo.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/07\/redline3.png 1318w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-10672\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Parameter Sensitivity: Redline<\/p><\/div>\n<p>This graph shows 0-60 mph time on the Y axis, and Redline on the X axis.\u00a0 There is very little change from 6500-7500 rpm, which suggests that 6500 rpm is a good choice.<\/p>\n<p>Another fun aspect of CarTest is the Top Speed Calculator.\u00a0 A &#8216;stock&#8217; STS-V is electronically limited to 155 mph.\u00a0 CarTest estimates that on a perfect endless flat road it could do 172 mph.\u00a0 The Spectre intake might raise this to 178 mph.\u00a0 In a standing mile, the STS-V should hit around 149 mph at 34 seconds, so at the Texas Mile which measures from a rolling start it might do somewhat over 150 mph.\u00a0 There is an overboost mode that kicks in over 150 mph after 150 seconds that drops the boost from 12 psi, but it would not come up in the time required for a mile.<\/p>\n<p>I am glad I &#8216;refound&#8217; <a title=\"Car Test Performance Simulator\" href=\"http:\/\/www.cartestsoftware.com\/index.php\">CarTest<\/a>, and that it is still available at all, and at a reasonable price.\u00a0 Nothing replaces actually testing changes on your car, but I like to have some predicted results to use for trades: IF I do <em>this<\/em> for <em>that<\/em> much money what would happen?\u00a0 Trades that one can work through without actually spending money are preferred.<\/p>\n<p>I also should mention that when the Cadillac &amp; GM Performance Division Engineers spent time getting the STS-V just right, they clearly made some good choices.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I enjoyed Cartest back in the day in the dos version, and picked up the latest JAVA stand-alone version of CarTest 2000.\u00a0 CarTest is a simulation that makes it easy to compare a variety of parameters for your vehicle to &hellip; <a href=\"http:\/\/www.caddyinfo.com\/wordpress\/cartest-cadillac-sts-v-vs-driver-temp-whp-final-drive-redline-topspeed\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[17,19,6,523,324,189],"tags":[715,177,541,755,321],"class_list":["post-10593","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-mods","category-new-technology","category-site-info-news","category-sts-v-cadillac-models","category-test-gear","category-test-info","tag-0-60-mph","tag-acceleration","tag-cadillac-sts-v","tag-cartest","tag-lc3"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.caddyinfo.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/10593","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.caddyinfo.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.caddyinfo.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.caddyinfo.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.caddyinfo.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=10593"}],"version-history":[{"count":84,"href":"http:\/\/www.caddyinfo.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/10593\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":10685,"href":"http:\/\/www.caddyinfo.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/10593\/revisions\/10685"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.caddyinfo.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=10593"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.caddyinfo.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=10593"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.caddyinfo.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=10593"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}